tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post4587163363161801008..comments2024-03-13T14:53:58.150-04:00Comments on MUSINGS OF A SCI-FI FANATIC: B5 S3 Ep16: War Without End Part OneSFFhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-76107432272390932612008-08-13T16:51:00.000-04:002008-08-13T16:51:00.000-04:00ha! I definitely knew what you meant and I was def...ha! I definitely knew what you meant and I was definitely kidding around. Believe me some of my favorite science fiction doesn't have the slickest of effects. It's all about the story and ideas right pal? Glad you like Tom Baker! He rocks!SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-77934664720811650642008-08-13T02:43:00.000-04:002008-08-13T02:43:00.000-04:00*snicker* I think my point is that one should real...*snicker* I think my point is that one should really not watch Classic Who for the SFX, but once you're used to those then anything made in the 90s looks slick by comparison. And Tom Baker is awesome, but Patrick Troughton is always going to be my favorite. OLD SCHOOL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-34332875147376298312008-08-12T22:03:00.000-04:002008-08-12T22:03:00.000-04:00Well, points well taken Ly. Y'all are going to ha...Well, points well taken Ly. Y'all are going to have me re-evaluating Sinclair on the second go round. I wouldn't for a minute disagree with Ly regarding Sinclair's character or the fact he's likeable. He's definitely all of that. I guess I just haven't warmed up to him, but I will say this, I think your points [as well as M and Aris] are interesting regarding Sinclair's arc being more "complete," whereby Sheridan had a much larger curve to work with. I definitely get that from the characters in a big way. Anyway, no offense to Babylon original O'Hare who I could definitely see argued as having more "gravitas" as Aris-tgd put it.<BR/><BR/>Regarding Classic Who, I can't say I'll be running out to check on those earlier episodes based on that rousing effects review. I definitely got a huge does of the Tom Baker years and I loved him and Sarah Jane.<BR/><BR/>Nice hearing from y'all, sounds like I have much to look forward to.SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-45799110525439633352008-08-12T05:18:00.000-04:002008-08-12T05:18:00.000-04:001. Seriously, you haven't seen bad special effects...1. Seriously, you haven't seen bad special effects until you've watched reels of Classic Who. Bad bluescreen and claymation, alien hands made out of green bubble wrap... solarize filters and mid-90s CG are THE FUTURE, man.<BR/><BR/>2. I didn't like Sinclair as much until the second time I watched the show. I think it doesn't help that JMS was learning as a writer during Season 1, and there were so many guest writers with only so much to go on for his dialogue. Now I like him more than Sheridan, who occasionally comes off as far too confrontational and without enough gravitas. Ah well. He is very energetic.<BR/><BR/>3. Hold on to your hat for Part 2. And then a few nice, character-driven episodes before Shadow Dancing... and then the biggie...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-9155039028649945362008-08-12T02:37:00.000-04:002008-08-12T02:37:00.000-04:00Well, I agree with M.Sinclair is definitly the per...Well, I agree with M.<BR/>Sinclair is definitly the person I would like to know better, Sheridan is the better man to run the station.<BR/>M.'s thoughts about the developement of the character are very true. Sinclair was too much "finished", Sheridan was at the first step of his way.<BR/>As M. said, he is thoughtful, introverted and burdened, a person who I personally would like to listen to.<BR/>Sheridan is a person I would rather like to dance with, than listen to.<BR/>And though I like listening more than dancing (I love to dance, but I would always prefer to talk to someone) Sinclair would be the person I would prefer to have as a friend.<BR/>Maybe that is, why I like Sinclair more.<BR/>But maybe it is only because I know O'Hare personally and really like him. ;o)<BR/><BR/>But it is also true, that the show needed a charismatic leader, a character who would be able to make people move in a direction they originally never wanted to move.<BR/>Sheridan is the character that can learn things Sinclair already knows, so he is the right person to run the station and lead the show.<BR/>And Sinclair is perfect in the place he now is. He has arrived and we can see that clearly in the way he acts now, compared to season 1.<BR/><BR/>greetings LyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-14629850472541262172008-08-11T17:34:00.000-04:002008-08-11T17:34:00.000-04:00Okay M, how the heck can I top that kind of insigh...Okay M, how the heck can I top that kind of insight? : ) That is excellent input. Thank you.SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-67319623495363386102008-08-11T17:03:00.000-04:002008-08-11T17:03:00.000-04:00What I liked about Sinclair was that he was differ...What I liked about Sinclair was that he was different from both Kirk and Picard. He clearly was a burdened and troubled person, an intersting choice for a commander. Still, as captain for B5, I'd choose Sheridan; I think he's more the confident and charismatic leader the station needs. But if you'd asked me to choose one of both to get to know, and possibly have as a friend, it would be Sinclair.<BR/><BR/>I think it was JMS himself who noted on the replacement of Sinclair by Sheridan that Sinclair, in terms of character development, had already arrived at the point he wanted his hero to be in the end, and thus there wasn't much room left for character development. Atheist or not, he wanted a thoughtfull leader with a spiritual focus - and remember the scene in the Zen garden in the pilot? Instead of evolving to that point, Sinclair was already there.<BR/><BR/>B5 is all about the hero's journey, and you can't have a hero's journey with a character, no matter how troubled, who basically has arrived at its destination. Sheridan was deliberately introduced as the goofy guy who was mainly concerned about orange juice and real honest-to-god hot water showers, and had not much interest in spiritual things. Although he wasn't completely unaccessible, as JMS was careful to point out with Sheridan's visit to the Dalai Lama. But he hadn't put much active thought into it, and that offered a much more interesting dynamic for a relationship with Delenn.<BR/><BR/>M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-62192099646042146852008-08-11T16:42:00.000-04:002008-08-11T16:42:00.000-04:00MWell, I think you're making the point. In genera...M<BR/>Well, I think you're making the point. In general. Who would you prefer? I thought the way you perceived Sinclair's personality was interesting looking at it from that vantage point. It would seem like Ly and others would have similiar feelings about O'Hare that way. You sounded a bit torn yourself liking them both for different reasons.SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-4858652457944334102008-08-11T16:30:00.000-04:002008-08-11T16:30:00.000-04:00PS: I voted for Sheridan. Though I'm not quite sur...PS: I voted for Sheridan. Though I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Who would you choose" - choose for what? As a commander/captain of B5, I don't think Sinclair/O'Hare could've carried the show as Sheridan/Boxleitner did. But as a person, I liked the thoughtfull, introverted Sinclair better. Though many fans agree with you, I didn't think O'Hare's portrayal was wooden. It's more like the character is a restrained, introverted person who was well aware that he wasn't the best candidate for running the station and thus never comfortable with his position. I thought that O'Hare conveyed that trait very well. OTOH, he never convinced me when it comes to the action scenes.<BR/><BR/>M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-54550998539709863102008-08-11T15:55:00.000-04:002008-08-11T15:55:00.000-04:00You see now it's all making sense... : )You see now it's all making sense... : )SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-58737888847290755242008-08-11T15:06:00.000-04:002008-08-11T15:06:00.000-04:00Well, JMS apparently worships Rod Serling and was ...Well, JMS apparently worships Rod Serling and was a writer/story editor for the "New Twilight Zone". :)<BR/><BR/>M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-61842014910861534852008-08-11T14:59:00.000-04:002008-08-11T14:59:00.000-04:00Hey allYeah, don't mind me. I think it would be i...Hey all<BR/>Yeah, don't mind me. I think it would be interesting to see who likes Sinclair versus Sheridan. Don't mind me at all. Obviously my preference for Sheridan is completely subjective and to each his/ her own. I'll put up a quick poll and see if anyone cares to register their opinion on Sinclair versus Sheridan. Babylon 5 fans are definitely some of the best!<BR/><BR/>By the way, how bout that info from M. That is so Twilight Zone....SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-68943470825435628572008-08-11T12:24:00.000-04:002008-08-11T12:24:00.000-04:00*grml* Sinclair, not Sinclare...*grml* Sinclair, not Sinclare...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-88849281275427410222008-08-11T12:22:00.000-04:002008-08-11T12:22:00.000-04:00Better save MOST of your Aspirin for the second pa...Better save MOST of your Aspirin for the second part! :o)<BR/><BR/>Well, if you feel part I is a mind-twister, fasten your seatbelts for part II, it will blow a hole into your brain.<BR/><BR/>I personally liked Michael O'Hare as Sinclare alot, even more than Boxleitner als Sheridan, but I got used to Boxleitner/Sheridan.<BR/><BR/>greetings<BR/>LyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-36966371367516719452008-08-11T10:21:00.000-04:002008-08-11T10:21:00.000-04:00Save some of your Aspirin for the second part :))A...Save some of your Aspirin for the second part :))<BR/><BR/>About "tell that story at all costs", I've actually read rumours that JMS had contingency plans how to continue the show in case he dies.<BR/><BR/>M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com