tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post3398660366197645018..comments2024-03-13T14:53:58.150-04:00Comments on MUSINGS OF A SCI-FI FANATIC: Thompson Twins: Here's To Future DaysSFFhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-33335764371433879182022-02-18T14:49:46.795-05:002022-02-18T14:49:46.795-05:00Thank you for writing. It sounds like your role wa...Thank you for writing. It sounds like your role was management of some kind. I could be wrong, but I enjoyed your informative comment. I definitely enjoyed Joe's contributions to the sound of the group and it certainly changed after his departure without a doubt. To this day, I'm grateful for the music the Thompson Twins gave the world.SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-35233970787910466222021-10-25T13:59:24.005-04:002021-10-25T13:59:24.005-04:00A few of the statements in the main piece are inac...A few of the statements in the main piece are inaccurate but, on the whole, I enjoyed your enthusiasm for the band. For the record, Joe Leeway provided a vital and oustanding contribution to the band. His theatrical background inspired the brilliant stage sets and choreography and promoters on their many US tours would ring ahead to the next gig and tell them they had to see this band's production. Regarding Joe, he came to talk to me in 1986 and was clearly unhappy with Tom's reticence to include his songs in the band's repertoire. I had known Tom for fourteen years and knew his musical taste and that Joe's songs, though excellent in their own way, would not fit Tom's plan. Tom is a musical genius and has a very clear idea of what he can engage with musically. My allegiance to his success was absolute and my primary commitment was to him. I didn't want to see Joe's frustrations continue though, so I simply advised him that he should leave the band if he felt he could build the momentum for a solo career. I was concerned that his leaving would be detrimental to the band but didn't want an unhappy person to continue with us. He has since been reported to have a grudge against me but I did my best to express my views in accordance with reality and what I thought best for him and the band. Snowiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02073133470638699303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-39651482618450553702018-05-02T14:37:34.632-04:002018-05-02T14:37:34.632-04:00Sidekick Nick
This is the first I've heard of...Sidekick Nick<br /><br />This is the first I've heard of it. SO thank you for letting everyone who visits here know about Tom Bailey's NEW SOLO recording.<br /><br />If it sounds as good as Come So Far we are going to be just fine!<br /><br />Fantastic news! Thank you<br />GordonSFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-6430774595584989372018-04-30T17:56:08.650-04:002018-04-30T17:56:08.650-04:00Hi SFF,
Bet you are over the moon (see what I did...Hi SFF,<br /><br />Bet you are over the moon (see what I did there) with the title of Tom's new solo record!<br /><br />I'm sure that you, like me and many others around the world are hanging out to hear the new material when it gets released later in the year. Let's hope it lives up to / exceeds our expectations.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />SideKickNickSideKickNicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-11346608386899635722015-11-21T07:52:38.165-05:002015-11-21T07:52:38.165-05:00Tayles
I really enjoyed your story. Thanks for sh...Tayles<br /><br />I really enjoyed your story. Thanks for sharing that here. That was really special.<br /><br />I had a chance to see Tom in Boston not too long ago for the tour you mentioned but I couldn't get a soul to go with me. I tried to sway one of my kids but they just wouldn't budge. Sadly, they are really missing out. ;)<br /><br />Anyway, really enjoyed the angle of your story and how the band touched your family and how your family had an impact on what was going on with the group for a significant portion of their pop career. Awesome.<br /><br />All the best.SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-41778962768187349862015-11-21T03:18:30.308-05:002015-11-21T03:18:30.308-05:00I just stumbled across this piece and really enjoy...I just stumbled across this piece and really enjoyed it. My mum ran the Thompson Twins fan club in the 80s, so the band was part of my family's life for quite a few years during that period. <br /><br />My sister was a huge fan of the band and one day my mum ran into them in our town, while out shopping. They were doing some recording nearby, I think. Anyway, she invited them back to our house for tea and to our amazement they turned up and spent the afternoon with us. <br /><br />My mum is a good artist and painted a picture of them and delivered it to their management office in London to say thank you. She ended up offering to help with their nascent and shambolic fan club, and after doing a better job than the incumbent (boyfriend of the band's graphic designer, Andy Airfix), the band's manager, John Hade, put my mum in charge. <br /><br />Five or six years of madness followed, while my mum ran the fan club and turned it into something slick and computerised. I'd go as far as to say that she revolutionised the whole fan club scene, and lots of other bands asked her to run theirs, too. <br /><br />She and my sister went on tour with the band, but the highlight for me was being invited to a sneak preview of Ghostbusters (the Twins were in the soundtrack) and sitting next to Quincy Jones.<br /><br />Sad how the band faded, but the wheel of music turns and some people are left behind. Earlier this year, however, Tom Bailey resurfaced to do some Rewind gigs with other 80s artists and my mum met with him again for the first time in 20 years. Apparently he sounded great. Russell Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17047050021012425878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-84704494274984496192013-10-29T15:37:26.790-04:002013-10-29T15:37:26.790-04:00Ha! Not really. There's nothing better than t...Ha! Not really. There's nothing better than the sound of popping vinyl.<br /><br />I'm still getting the CDs too, but I am a bit more discerning of late. My collections is too big and just sitting there.<br /><br />Cheers Michael!SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-40373229247388061782013-10-29T10:54:10.238-04:002013-10-29T10:54:10.238-04:00Isn't that funny, SFF. I've put a turntabl...Isn't that funny, SFF. I've put a turntable back in my life. Well, a couple now since I found an old German Dual and reanimated it ;-). While I still download and pick up some worth while CDs, I'm rebuilding my LP collection. Bizarre, I know ;-).le0pard13https://www.blogger.com/profile/09421175808461787862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-12815266441077177272013-10-29T10:45:19.004-04:002013-10-29T10:45:19.004-04:00Ah, vinyl. I have plenty of it and I even have a ...Ah, vinyl. I have plenty of it and I even have a record player but I never use it. I've simply relented. I gave in. In fact, I'm even giving in to the digital world. I downloaded an ENTIRE album (look I even use the word album still) for Briana Corrigan (former vocalist of The Beautiful South) and I've never done that. I always bought the CD. So that was a first last night.<br /><br />Well, I sure hope you can appreciate the energy and craft of this remarkable production upon your revisit.<br /><br />The disappointing Waking Up With The House On Fire by Culture Club doesn't even come close.<br /><br />Good luck with Future Days. It's a keeper!<br />best<br />sff<br /><br />And thank you for writing. I really enjoyed reading your comment.SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-26313398554059621012013-10-24T17:33:05.777-04:002013-10-24T17:33:05.777-04:00Well, this has got me interested enough again to g...Well, this has got me interested enough again to go back and listen to my two-disk original vinyl UK version... (Which was ultimately a disappointment for the exclusion of Roll Over. Which disappointment was magnified by the teaser of Roll Under on some import 12".) I've got a record player handy for the first time in years, so I'll visit the main disk and the bonus remix disk.<br /><br />But HTFD was a big let-down form me when it came out, akin to Waking up with the House on Fire--i.e., eagerly awaited to the point of setting myself up for let-down. Loved the two American singles (though as I was already intimately familiar with the original version of LYHOM, the new version was a bit hard to stomach) and a couple other tracks, but never got the vibe of most of the rest of the tracks. Jake Plumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-90438288301756655152013-05-18T18:58:00.554-04:002013-05-18T18:58:00.554-04:00Hi Dallas
I love that song. I stand by this post...Hi Dallas<br /><br />I love that song. I stand by this post. Just an amazing work really.<br /><br />Keep an eye out. I hope to get back to writing soon and I have Simple Minds on the docket up next.<br /><br />Best<br />sffSFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-90630651880110941182013-05-13T11:17:08.769-04:002013-05-13T11:17:08.769-04:00Listened to Roll Over this morning. Sad, as I thin...Listened to Roll Over this morning. Sad, as I think it could have been a big single for the Twins. Had no idea the song only appeared in the US.<br /><br />Perhaps one day the record label will release more unreleased tracks from Here's to Future Days on iTunes.Dallas Markshttp://www.dallasmarks.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-53160764357388787412012-01-11T09:38:59.908-05:002012-01-11T09:38:59.908-05:00Jeremy,
This exchange has been a pleasure and a r...Jeremy,<br /><br />This exchange has been a pleasure and a refreshing reminder of why I, like you, adore the qualities and talent and the scope of artists that arrived in the 1980s.<br /><br />I don't know if I've ever considered this before, but with something like the music we love I feel as though we may have been born at just the right time. : )<br /><br />I'm right there with you on the alphabetically, criminally-underrated [today] ABC and Martin Fry. Fry has always been very respected as an artist thankfully over the years and it was unfortunate to see his impact drop off with the departure of Mark White following the underappreciated Abracadabra. Skyscraping and even his newest outing have some remarkable moments.<br /><br />Anyway, your background is fantastic and I wish you all the best in your work and pursuing any efforts to continue to underscore the influence of the 80s. <br /><br />I, too, would love a link to anything you write about or interviews you might post. If there is an avenue for someone like myself to read these efforts please let me know. I would be very interested as well.<br /><br />Finally, all the best with that Tom Bailey interview. Again, I would love to see a transcript of that someday. Please urge him to reconsider a proper retro-inspired NEW effort employing that special voice. It would be a work of TT genius. <br /><br />I immediately think of a group like Foster The People. Their recording is a brilliant album that is dripping with 80s influence. People, somewhat unknowingly, are still open to a great melody and inventiveness on that level. <br /><br />Tell Tom I will buy 20 copies of his recording to help make it worth his while. : )<br /><br />All the best, <br />sffSFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-84203214941626560222012-01-10T23:34:30.110-05:002012-01-10T23:34:30.110-05:00Sci-Fi,
Great read! You and I are both veteran ch...Sci-Fi,<br /><br />Great read! You and I are both veteran champions for the Thompson Twins and Tears for Fears, as our postings speak high volumes about their music and the time of which it was celebrated. I look forward to reading more of your reviews, analysis and editorials on new wave / '80s pop. If you don't mind, add me to your distribution list (bandsreunited@yahoo.com) when you post new blogs related to Eighties' music. I'd like to keep your blogs on my radar. I contribute articles to Atlanta's<br />99x radio (Retro Beach) and the Examiner news source. I'm also a free lance PR project manager and have worked with Alan Wilder of Depeche Mode, Wang Chung, Kajagoogoo, Tony Hadley and ABC, who I'm alphabetically devoted to for the remainder of this life. I'll be interviewing Tom Bailey later this year and I'm going to pitch some of the ideas at him that we've proposed here, just to gauge his next direction. I think you and I have built a good case to proposition him with. Cheers + blessings, Jeremy Kennedy, PMP. Atlanta, GA USAJeremy Kennedyhttp://www.pmassistant.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-22088145547343037582012-01-10T11:25:45.339-05:002012-01-10T11:25:45.339-05:00Jeremy,
Listening to you is like listening to a l...Jeremy,<br /><br />Listening to you is like listening to a long lost brother. I can onnly tell you that I concur with you on nearly every thought. Further, you articulate those observations perfectly.<br /><br />I'm glad I touched a nerve because you are absolutely on the money. First, the Orzabal recording is stunningly good, the solo that is. But also, as you so eloquently put it with the line "his personal convictions, and the expression of liberties exalted from being withheld all of those years", Orzabal, like so many artistic geniuses, truly broke free of those chains. I suppose we can count Green Gartside in that category to a lesser degree and more importantly Paddy McAloon.<br /><br />But, as you said, even those post-Curt recordings are epic. Raoul And The Kings Of Spain remains a tour de force of genius. You have inspired me to reserve a spot here for it this year. It's absolutely essential we cover some TFF and that would be the recording to do it. Elemental is very good and I would only say that, while I agree with you on your point about Curt and Rolan reconnecting, that recording as you so accurately described, does have its moments and a few truly strong numbers I do love.<br /><br />But, yes, Roland is truly one of a kind. Those projects are infused with magnificence. It's hard to put into words the poetry of Raoul, but that's for another day.<br /><br />As for Bailey, I agree. For someone so incredibly talented he has gone off on a complete bender. He's lost his identity as you said. If not, it certainly feels that way to a degree.<br /><br />Babble was interesting and there were moments I certainly enjoyed with that project, but this synthecide nonsense has lost its humanity with Bailey remaining silent behind the microphone.<br /><br />He has such a warm, robust presence and yet we have seen nothing impressive or truly magical since Queer.<br /><br />I, like you, would love just one Tom Bailey solo and see him get back to the basics of pop construction that he did so masterfully for a decade. I fear that shall never come to pass and that is truly sad because some of his songs that dart that music landscape are also genius. The audience may no longer be there like it once was, but it's not going to be there for his ambient projects. It's like, come back into the pop gap Mr. Bailey, people are waiting for your return.<br /><br />Here's To Future Days indeed.<br /><br />Thanks again Jeremy. And I'll have you know, you have inspired a new entry that is forthcoming. I won't give it away, but you got it rolling. Thank you.SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-46975759075426481282012-01-09T17:04:39.484-05:002012-01-09T17:04:39.484-05:00Unfortunately, Tom Bailey has yet to produce a sol...Unfortunately, Tom Bailey has yet to produce a solo effort as creative as Orzabal's "Tomcats..". Bailey's International Observer deconstructs music and molds it in the reconstruction process to new sounds but fails to integrate the results with any new original composition. It's catchy and clever, but Bailey seems to have lost his identity in the whole process. Babble on the other hand, was a fascinating experiment, especially the brilliant "The Stone". I met with Tom Bailey in London with his son at an Int'l Observer show at Cargo and Tom praised "The Stone" as his best work in nearly 30 years. History will decide that, but until then, I too hope that Tom Bailey reaches beyond Int'l Observer and delivers a record that compliments his dreamy vocals (as in "Storm of the Sea") while being induced with retro technology. If it is the last record Bailey records, I anticipate it impatiently with a headline that reads: Tom Bailey (1977-20??) Cause of recording death: Synthecide.Jeremy Kennedyhttp://www.99x.com/blogs/JeremyKsRetrobeach.aspxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-90599727376667876032012-01-09T17:04:06.210-05:002012-01-09T17:04:06.210-05:00Sci-Fi,
I'm still pondering the odds of find...Sci-Fi, <br /><br />I'm still pondering the odds of finding such an in-depth review of an album that's received a minor resurrection by Edsel (UK only), wondering what else awaits as I stumble into 2012. <br /><br />I'm glad you mentioned Roland Orzabal. Like Tom Bailey, I would like to sit with him and get inside of his head, stimulating the mechanisms that make such brilliant records. There are only a few artists in my generation that can guarantee a catchy hook over and over again: Tom Bailey is one; Roland Orzabal is another. His post-Curt Tears achieve dimensions that weren't possible with his partnership with Curt. Critics have always written off TFF as an electronic synthpop outfit; however, there is power beyond the synth in "Elemental" and "Raoul & the Kings of Spain", two essential must-own records for any fan of music in general. These two records are Roland Orzabal's testimony, his personal convictions, and the expression of liberties exalted from being withheld all of those years prior to Curt's departure. Everywhere I go, people still glorify Tears for Fears, the '80s pop duo. However, I occasionally meet someone like you, who knows shares my revelation of the big secret about the 'big chair'. When Curt & Roland reunited in 2004, I confess I was 'excited' to see TFF working again; however, I was skeptical about what direction the talented Orzabal and the rather boring Smith would go; the result was an atrocious album that wasn't anything like any incarnation of Tears for Fears. I expected a genuine, mature TFF record; what we got was a collection of recycled Beatles ideas that were dramatically over-produced while dismally dissatisfying to a Tears fan. <br />By the way, Orzabal's only solo release, "Tomcats Screaming Outside" is just remarkable. Dabbling in drum n'bass and electroclash sounds, Orzabal stretches to new heights that extend beyond Tears boundaries as it emphasizes all of the attributes you love about him: his powerful vocals, his wondrous lyrics, and his craftsmanship with instrumentation. (To be Con'td)Jeremy Kennedyhttp://www.99x.com/blogs/JeremyKsRetrobeach.aspxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-28463410452794127942012-01-09T09:10:22.550-05:002012-01-09T09:10:22.550-05:00Jeremy
Thank you for your thoughtful and very inf...Jeremy<br /><br />Thank you for your thoughtful and very informative comment. I found it very interesting.<br /><br />It's funny, I do know what you mean about it.<br /><br />It's a very Roland Orzabal moment for Tom Bailey isn't it?<br /><br />I always loved the dictatorial power of Orzabal's vision and I suppose that translated here as well. Tom Bailey was a genius in so many ways.<br /><br />Having said that, like the Curt Smith/ Orzabal relationship on the fascinating Songs From The Big Chair it's very clear to me there is something missing with Leeway's presence gone. I would agree. As much as I do love the project it lacks the seamless blend of style and sound that Into The Gap and even Quick Step And Side Kick possessed.<br /><br />That latter recording is magic too and there's something to be said for the perfection in those recordings. They are undeniable.<br /><br />Here's To Future Days can certainly sustain knocks for being over produced and your comments reflect that.<br /><br />It doesn't look like Future Days was a labor of love by any stretch and clearly the marriage was over at this point, but it still holds up as a great recording even with all of its studio tinkering, pulling and tugging.<br /><br />They often say great things come from chaos and friction. Maybe that was in play for the Twins for those three definitive recordings up to Close To The Bone.<br /><br />I must play them all loud later this evening. : )<br /><br />Thank you.<br />sffSFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-26265660823102388932012-01-08T22:05:43.449-05:002012-01-08T22:05:43.449-05:00I was lucky enough to spend some time with Joe Lee...I was lucky enough to spend some time with Joe Leeway in 2006 at his home outside of Los Angeles and he shared my delusion regarding Future Days. Joe confessed that making the album was a studio nightmare, as the Oberheim synth became a slave master and Tom became the slave. Tom would relinquish all hours of the day and night, polishing and perfecting a record to please the masses, while disenfranchising their fans. Joe also told me that when the record was delivered to Clive Davis of Arista, the former president looked at them and said "You've made the biggest mistake of your career." Working with Nile Rogers to make an American pop rock album was a tragic notion in hindsight, he said. As you mentioned, Joe took the high road and left for a pending solo career. In hindsight, Joe said that he was completely bored with the Future Days project, found himself wandering in and out of fame, and took time to reconnect with common people again. A few months after the album's release, Joe was asked to leave the Twins by manager John Hade after Joe requested a six-month hiatus following the US leg of the Future Days tour. Like your analysis, Hade felt that Joe was an unnecessary component on the hit machine and forced his exit. Ironically, Hade himself was ousted the next year in 1987. <br />"Close to the Bone", "Big Trash", and "Queer" were all definitive records of Tom Bailey, but Joe's influence is absent throughout the remaining life of the Twins' anthology. In the studio, his high-falsetto vocals were no longer available; however it was the Thompson Twins unforgettable live sets that experienced death following his demise as a band member. Tom and Alannah ran with one tour post-Joe and sadly it was a weak effort to be something that the Thompson Twins had vowed never to be: a boring rock n'roll band on stage. <br /><br />Thank you again for the passion in your review. Here's to more Thompson Twins in future days...Jeremy Kennedyhttp://www.pmassistant.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-61343629124776337692012-01-08T22:04:47.473-05:002012-01-08T22:04:47.473-05:00Hello from Atlanta, USA. I just read your outstand...Hello from Atlanta, USA. I just read your outstanding review of the Thompson Twins HTFD's notable reissue as I'm enlightened by the recognition this forgotten release has received. Personally, I've always sensed a yin-yang toward Future Days, even today as I revisit the original LP that's been part of my extensive collection for over 25 years. <br /><br />I really enjoyed traveling down the Twins' street of career milestones. After the promising Sidekicks left me thirsty for more, the pinnacle Into the Gap excelled my interest in music altogether, so needless to say, when Future Days arrived, the bar was set unfairly, too high. As an American, the Thompson Twins were unconventional, cutting-edge and futuristic to me. Their atmospheric, worldly percussive instrumentation was unlike any other sound coming from US studios. So with great anticipation, I anxiously purchased Future Days (cassette & vinyl LP), virtually hugged the cover art, and embraced the album. However, what I heard was a familiar production from an unlikely effort. Soaked in hard-riff guitars, quirky choruses (i.e. "Have you heard that Love! Love! Love is the Law?", and lyrics that were no longer intriguing, Future Days was a struggle to fall in love with. <br /><br />As the years pass, I make a point to re-listen to each of the Twins' records annually, making discoveries along the way still after countless listens. Future Days contains a helluva gem single with "Lay Your Hands on Me", trumping the record's other tracks. Tom's thinly frail voice is complimented with the choir echoes of the chorus, cheering a melodic hook that stretches beyond the 4 minutes, seeping deep in the mind of the listener minutes after the song completes. "Lay Your Hands on Me" is worth the price of admission alone. I agree, the title track screams solo in the shower, while "Breakaway" is strong enough to have made chart impact on pop radio. "King for a Day" was made for MTV while Live Aid was certainly prefaced with a cover of the poli-social theme of "Revolution". However, the rest of the album is perplexed with directions reflecting a tug-of-war within the band. (To be cont'd)Jeremy Kennedyhttp://www.pmassistant.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-29654724572838402452010-11-18T10:00:00.385-05:002010-11-18T10:00:00.385-05:00Thrilled to have you right there along with me for...Thrilled to have you right there along with me for an appreciation of the music my friend.<br /><br />I'm glad my efforts aren't for naught as they say.<br /><br />A terrific recording and honestly you cannot go wrong with that REMASTERED BOX SET! It's absolutely perfect. One of the finest offerings out there.SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1031498593064294214.post-57228192572620965722010-11-18T01:12:42.054-05:002010-11-18T01:12:42.054-05:00Another stellar music post, my friend! It really c...Another stellar music post, my friend! It really causes me to eat up bandwidth, too, by having me flit over to YouTube to revisit the tunes/bands you name off in the piece. Kudos, SFF. I really enjoy these examinations.le0pard13https://www.blogger.com/profile/09421175808461787862noreply@blogger.com